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IDEAS FOR THE PERFECT VAN NATIONALS

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Post by highwaymenace on 29/4/2009, 2:45 pm

Hey Agro..

34 years already & it has not happened, i cant see it ever working. but we all can hope.

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Post by Guest on 29/4/2009, 2:55 pm

SURELY there could be at least 1 member from each club, that has a level head, and is prepared to nut things out with other representatives of each club for the better of vanning?

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Post by Guest on 29/4/2009, 3:07 pm

Agro wrote:SURELY there could be at least 1 member from each club, that has a level head, and is prepared to nut things out with other representatives of each club for the better of vanning?

The Sundowners run on the 17th maybe a good forum to bring this up for the NSW clubs IF enough show up. Just a thought.

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Post by highwaymenace on 29/4/2009, 3:10 pm

good idea Rhino.

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Post by Guest on 29/4/2009, 3:13 pm

Rhino wrote:
Agro wrote:SURELY there could be at least 1 member from each club, that has a level head, and is prepared to nut things out with other representatives of each club for the better of vanning?

The Sundowners run on the 17th maybe a good forum to bring this up for the NSW clubs IF enough show up. Just a thought.

Sounds like a plan Rhino. Very Happy

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Post by M&M on 29/4/2009, 3:23 pm

We finally got on Daz!! Hey guys, hope you can make it work... we would be interested in the council as it has been tried before but maybe the outcome would be different with different people. If you need any help, please feel free to let us know.

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Post by Guest on 29/4/2009, 3:28 pm

I wouldn't mind being a part of it, but i only know a handful of people outside the forum.

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Post by M&M on 29/4/2009, 4:21 pm

Agro... everyone has to start somewhere and it seems to us that you are keen.

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Post by M&M on 29/4/2009, 4:22 pm

Be good to see that Bedford on the road!! Can say that.... Matt has gone to bed.

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Post by BRUTLE on 30/4/2009, 5:18 am

Agro wrote:SURELY there could be at least 1 member from each club, that has a level head, and is prepared to nut things out with other representatives of each club for the better of vanning?
not a shot at yourself Agro as i feel you possibly would be one of the most cool headed level minded members of the vanning online community , but your post highlights another HUGE SHORTFALL of vanning , the ignorance of Independant Vanners , all we hear is "Clubs" "Clubs" Clubs" all you club members never forget the majority of van owners are "Independant Vanners" you need to include them in fair representative numbers within any committee for it to work .

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Post by Guest on 30/4/2009, 10:56 am

Your so true Al it's people like you and Fres (independent Vanners) that probably make up a majority of the Van owners in Australia and you guys should have a BIG say in any Van Council set up in NSW. But in saying that independents need to let the clubs know their out there (which is something you, Fres and some other do very well) by using the forums and going on the runs or unfortunately they get forgotten about when the decision making is done.

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Post by M&M on 30/4/2009, 10:59 am

This is exactly why the VCV was set up for individual members so that the individuals who could give a toss could be part of the association. There are no club benefits in the VCV only a lot of individuals. These individuals may also be in clubs but they are all individual members.

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Post by Guest on 30/4/2009, 2:01 pm

Thanks for those kind words Al. Embarassed
It was never my intention to forget about the independant vanners, i was just using "clubs" as an example.

Why not have a NSW Van Council (NSWVC) and have 5 people on a committee.
Where vanners from all over NSW can vote on issues and these 5 people can represent them.
Just the same as VCV basically but in NSW, and have the same in each state.


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These are my comments and suggestions to help try and get a level playing field (and judging criteria)for all vanners australia wide. At least this way if a judge is either a Vanner, Street machiner, Hot rodder etc they have the catagories to which the van will be judge on. OR if you prefer to chase trophies you can build your van to suit the catagories.

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Post by Guest on 30/4/2009, 2:41 pm

if over 50 vans turn up and everybody is welcome at everybodies camp. thats a success in it self.

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Post by Ben79hz on 2/5/2009, 11:39 am

Am I missing something,or has no one noticed this site and the comments about the 2010 natts,
http://www.vanning.org.au/ Question Question Question

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Post by Guest on 2/5/2009, 12:29 pm

Yep sure did (page 2 of 2010 nats - my post about 1/2 way down)

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Post by Ben79hz on 2/5/2009, 1:19 pm

Thanks Agro, as always Im a few weeks behind everyone else,bugger as it got my hopes up,still fingers crossed for a someone to take charge of the next natts.

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Post by Ramble on 3/5/2009, 1:33 pm

Why not have a NSW Van Council (NSWVC) and have 5 people on a committee.
Where vanners from all over NSW can vote on issues and these 5 people can represent them.
Just the same as VCV basically but in NSW, and have the same in each state.


Well Ill second that,

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Post by BRUTLE on 3/5/2009, 3:28 pm

rambletamble wrote:Why not have a NSW Van Council (NSWVC) and have 5 people on a committee.
Where vanners from all over NSW can vote on issues and these 5 people can represent them.
Just the same as VCV basically but in NSW, and have the same in each state.


Well Ill second that,



Well Ramble I couldn't agree more this is just so simple it just might work keep the representatives to be level headed family concious people keep the ego driven members to the side & we might have a chance to pull this off :-) i nominate Fres to represet us Ind Vanners

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Nats 2010

Post by M&M on 4/5/2009, 1:11 pm

Guys, we have tried this before... ask Fres! We would be only toooo happy to try again but we need support from QLD and NSW and to date have not had it.

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Post by Guest on 4/5/2009, 1:17 pm

How was it set up before?
Do you think the "new" breed of vanners would be any different??

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Post by M&M on 4/5/2009, 1:21 pm

Agro if they are all as enthusiastic as you are ... the possiblities are endless. I really don't know what the problem was.... the other states (NSW & QLD) wanted more control over the Van Nats and that is a good thing but you need some form of rules or guidelines and you need all parties to agree to them and not all did. If you have some suggestions... we are all ears.

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Post by Guest on 4/5/2009, 1:31 pm

Do you happen to have any old judging sheets around, that may give some people idea's?
If you had "LEVEL" headed people from each state, SURELY there could be something sorted out.

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Post by CURSED on 5/5/2009, 2:04 am

Agro wrote:Do you happen to have any old judging sheets around, that may give some people idea's?
If you had "LEVEL" headed people from each state, SURELY there could be something sorted out.
im just curious, why would you need old judging sheets?

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Post by mazdragon on 5/5/2009, 6:51 am

CURSED wrote:
Agro wrote:Do you happen to have any old judging sheets around, that may give some people idea's?
If you had "LEVEL" headed people from each state, SURELY there could be something sorted out.
im just curious, why would you need old judging sheets?

So you can know what it is that needs to be looked at to judge and acurately score the points. If you don't know what you're doing and what to look for, you can easily make mistakes and misinterpret what is required for the trophy hunters to polish up on - that would not be good cos then the trophy hunters will whinge and we don't want that Evil or Very Mad .

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